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Finally candid answers to all those important and sometimes embarrassing Jewish dating questions!!! Presenting the debut column of Frumma Frumsky. Ask Frumma all your questions that have yet to be answered properly and honestly by someone who actually knows what religious singles truly have to deal with and understands how to deal with
these issues.
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Subject: phone dates don't work in person
Dear Efrum and Frumma,
After a dozen terrific phone conversations with a guy who lives far away, I met him. The first couple hours were awkward, but we finally started to warm up to eachother at the end, and I was thankful that we would have a second date so I could see whether we really got along, but he canceled it and gave a semi-plausible excuse for being suddenly very busy. Naively, I initially believed the excuse so I reassured him that I wanted to see him again so that he wouldn't hesitate to call again, which made it worse when he never did!
There are certainly other fish in the sea, and I am out there fishing, but this guy seemed to have some good qualities that I haven't seen in others.
Is there anything I can do? My current thought is to wait a month or two (when I will be with my family who lives near him) and email him to say that I thought we got along well on the phone and was disappointed that that didn't translate in person, but would like to try again, but I'm afraid that sounds desperate especially after my early obliviousness to his attempt to break off contact.
(In the future, of course, I have learned not to talk on the phone so much even if it will be awhile before we can actually meet, and to treat every first date as a first date even if I feel like I know the person!)
Dana Lechafzchus
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Dear I-don't-understand-why-you-signed-the-way-you-did,
Here! Here! to not starting a long trail of phone dates before a first meeting unless the dude's on another continent (and i don't mean state) or in prison.
No matter whether you exchanged pictures, it's some sort of accepted statistic that approximately 70% of communication is relayed through body language... something that can never be transmitted over the phone, no matter what you talk about. so, what ends up happening (this i have had experience with) is that you have this seemingly great rapport with said dude, then suddenly you meet and have first date awkwardness. sometimes you can get through it, sometimes you can't. better to wait and date when it can be done in person.
Bottom line: drop it. the in-person dates were real. Your impressions were real, your feelings were real. The relationship wasn't.
Move on or stay stuck,
Frumma
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DL,
The throatiest phone voice in the world won't make up for a "good personality." Clearly he's not interested; move on. In the future, I'd suggest exchanging photos somewhere between... oh... the 7th and 8th phone converstions. You'll save a buck or two.
Efrum
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Comments:
Dear Efrum,
Thanks for your compassionate advice. You've given me a great deal of confidence to go right back out there into the dating world. This time I will be sure to wear a burka to better show off my "good personality".
Dana
Anonymous - 10/27/2005 PM
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Dear Dana Lechafzchus
Well if a phone conversation is going well the challenge is to continue having that convo going the same well it went on the phone on a date. But if someone is out of town and you don't speak on the phone you don't know whether it's worth trying or not. But even if the convo flows on the phone people have to be careful not to do things on a date that will turn the person you are dating off.
Eli
Eli 11/03/2005 PM
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Note: The views and opinions expressed here are that of Ms. Frumma Frumsky. They may not necessarily represent the opions of the site, staff or members. This section is meant to address issues in observant dating. The responses may include sarcastic remarks, or humorous statements intended to make light of the question, answer and perhaps the situation as well. We are not responsible if you decide to take or ignore the advice given in this column.
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