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| Rate-a-date | [10] | Anonymous | 15 Jan 13:35 | 5 Apr 11:31 | ||
| Why can't we pay? | [19] | Anonymous | 5 Jan 13:16 | 16 Oct 20:19 | ||
| Email notification of new members. | [7] | ♥Ari♥ | 6 Dec 16:03 | 29 Jun 17:42 | ||
| Help! | [1] | hbbchai | 21 May 02:51 | 22 May 08:18 | ||
| Clarify Age of the Person We Seek | [11] | dark magiq | 23 Mar 13:57 | 24 Mar 01:26 | ||
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Why can't we pay? |
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Frumster says that many people like to pay them money to show everyone they are serious about dating. Why don't you offer the same feature and let us pay you if we so choose? |
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| By: Anonymous - Do the Right Thing | |
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Are you on crack???? Frumster is trying to justify jacking up their rates and not allowing you to read a person's message unless you're a full member. Leave KosherStars free!!! |
| SassyChick 5 Jan 12PM |
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I honestly think that them saying 'people have asked to pay to show they are serious' is a total load. I'm very against the idea of not allowing members to use the basic features of the site. As for allowing people to pay, perhaps I'll allow donations or sponsorships. Though I would then add extra privileges for anyone who did choose to donte to the project. Maybe this is something to consider. This way I wouldn't feel like my effort is going to waste and it would encourage me to add more and better features. Any comments? |
| ♥Ari♥ 5 Jan 12PM |
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I’m not saying you should MAKE us pay, like certain unnamed evil websites do. (Go here to learn how to fight evil with evil.) But if someone WANTS to pay, to show everyone he is serious AND that he was a valid credit card number, why not give him the opportunity. If you want to keep this completely non-profit, you can even give his donation to a charity. KosherStars can raise money for a charity of its choice and give those who donate through it a special status as “Sponsors”. |
| Anonymous - Do the Right Thing - 5 Jan 1PM |
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(Go here to learn how to fight evil with evil.) |
| Anonymous - Do the Right Thing - 7 Jan 8PM |
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I think if possible it is better to keep this site free. If donations are needed to keep it up and running that is something else. But if and when Ari gets tired of maintaining the site I think running it like one of the free software foundations projects would be a better model. Other wise I basically agree with Sassychick. In fact I wonder (because you keep yourself anonymous) if you aren't working for the competition trying to nip a free site in the bud. After all if you don't think anyone here is serious, what are you doing here (the lemma being that you are serious)! Note, I'm not anonymous, so if any women like my posts and would like to get to know me better I'm more than happy to consider them! Ergo I take the possobilities of this site and what it has to offer seriously. |
| Harper 12 Jan 11AM |
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If someone wants to show off how much they care about the website by making a public donation, shouldn't they be allowed to do so? Maybe sponsors would ever certain privileges, like having their profiles come out on top on all searches which include them among the results. Frumster claims to be a better website because they require people to pay. Why not one up them by allowing people to pay without requiring them to do so? |
| Anonymous - Do the Right Thing - 15 Jan 1PM |
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If someone wants to show off how much they care about the website by making a public donation, shouldn't they be allowed to do so? Maybe sponsors would ever certain privileges, like having their profiles come out on top on all searches which include them among the results. Frumster claims to be a better website because they require people to pay. Why not one up them by allowing people to pay without requiring them to do so? |
| Anonymous - Do the Right Thing - 15 Jan 2PM |
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As for Frumster’s claims, just because Frumster says something doesn’t make it true! Otherwise exactly what would be your reason for having some people pay? Ari has not asked for money and has done this out of his own generosity, so why complain? If he was short on cash to keep the site up, and people weren’t willing to donate, THEN I could see your comment having some validity. “Sponsor privileges” would only cause a two tier system to start developing, one for those who pay, another for those who don’t pay. Once again, I ask, are you working for Frumster or one of the other dating services? Your ideas only serve their business model. Ari’s site is more of a charity than a business model. And if you want to argue, “people who pay are more serious”, then I ask from where do you get this statistic? I believe People who pay are simply more likely to use the service because they don’t want to feel like they have wasted money. I believe this site has languished due to lack of having a high enough profile, Frumster and Jdate advertise heavily. All they have proven by this is that advertising works, not that they have more serious people. |
| Harper 16 Jan 4AM |
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"And if you want to argue, “people who pay are more serious”, then I ask from where do you get this statistic?" no one is asserting this as being statistically factual. rather, the suggestion is that people who are "premium" users are PERCEIVED as more serious about the idea of dating/marriage by other users, which is true even by your own admission: "People who pay are simply more likely to use the service because they don’t want to feel like they have wasted money" - e.g. nobody would pay to be flaky. And as for being PERCEIVED in that light, well, whether we like it or not, perception is (nearly) everything in dating and especially online dating. |
| Anonymous - 16 Jan 2PM |
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I'm turning over the idea of sponsorship but also agree that I don't want to create a two-tier system. On the other hand, I'm no hero for sucking up the costs for this site when there are more important projects that I'd like to focus my energy on. |
| ♥Ari♥ 16 Jan 2PM |
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Of course Frumster’s claim isn’t true. However, there must be some people out there who believe it, for otherwise they would stop making a claim that hurts their credibility. Instead of just calling Frumster liars, which is true, KosherStars can do something better. It can allow people to pay without requiring them to. Even according to Frumster’s twisted logic that would clearly be a better option. Give the honorable badge of Sponsorship to those who want to pay for it. I predict almost no one will want it. Still, what does KosherStars lose by offering it? |
| Anonymous - Do the Right Thing - 16 Jan 2PM |
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i wanted to sponsor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! but the link is not working... i think this is a GREAT site. ari make the link work!!! |
| Brinx 2 Jul 3PM |
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I am a recently widowed man of 40 whos wife just passed away from a long terminal illness I stayed with my wife until the end . I had to take the last ten years off work to care for her . You can imagine my savings account has dwindled away , on top of that my wifes pension check has been discontinued . At this time I could not even if I wanted to , use any PAY dating sites , I am not a broke loser , I own my own estate with two homes one I live in while the other is under construction . This is thirty acres of pristine river front land . Now do you not think that just because at this time I can not pay for a dating site some woman that is looking for a good husband can/will not ever find me cause she is stuck on a pay date site . I thank Ayre for this wonderful dating site and I will find my partner and soon . Matzel Tov Alaron |
| Arronny 30 Aug 6PM |
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Dear Anonymous, If you think that paying to the admin of this site is the right thing to do, you should certainly contact Ari, and send him the money. But please don't presume your personal belief in how the dating sites ought to be managed to be a shared belief. Clearly it isn't the case. Frumster, JDate, and the rest of required payment websites are going to say whatever it will take to make themselves to sound attractive and sellable. It is called marketing. If you want to make a case and promote voluntary sponsoring of this site, because you believe that such services ought to be said "Thank you" via monetary rewards, that is great. Might I suggest that you employ different tactics aside from making blank statments? My first reaction to your original post, and I quote "Frumster says that many people like to pay them money to show everyone they are serious about dating." made me wonder about 2 things. 1. Do you awlays believe everything that paid for services sites say? 2. How well do you do your research? As I recall, when Frumser went from free services to paid for, the very first statment the admin of the site made was your basic justification for why he couldn't run the site free of charge anymore. He needed more people to help him and needed the money to pay those people, as well as he needed the funds to cover technical costs of running the site. Should it be that Ari is no longer capable of providing the services free of charge, by all means he should charge. But why ruin a good thing from the get go? |
| SpunkyRebel 30 Aug 7PM |
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For the record I don't intend to charge for using this site. I'd like to simply "build something." The idea of sponsorship is not out of the question either. And that is to say, as I've said before, I'm not opposed to accepting donations to help support the project and my work if people feel that this is a worthy cause. I've recently quit my job so I will admit I have thought about accepting donations but I would like to give something in return like bonus features or something. Additionally, I dislike the idea of having features that can only be attained through monetary contributions and therefore would offer a non-paying alternative to receive any bonus feature offered to sponsors. My intentions are to try to keep things fair and build something great. I hope that you all see this and if at any time you disagree with the policies of the site, please contact me regarding them. Thanks |
| ♥Ari♥ 30 Aug 7PM |
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In some jewish european website in particulary french. You have a free part wich is receive and send message If you want to be a VIP that give some advantage more you have to pay |
| Simply82 5 Oct 5PM |
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Hi! My opinion is that Ari should accept sponsorships, which I see he now does, but I think that he should allow us to choose how much to sponsor. IE he only has it set so we can give a $20 donation, and I'd rather donate $5 since I'm a college student, and I can't really afford to give $20 (which is why I'm on this site and not some other site that charges), and I'd really like to make a small contribution, but I can't really afford to give $20. |
| Anonymous - Jewish College Chick - 16 Oct 8PM |
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